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LAST EDITED ON 23-08-01 AT 11:23 AM (GMT)[p]Assalamu-alaikum:
So here's the so-called American justice! Just read for yourself.
Wa-salaam,
sure
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Jamaat al-Muslimeen International Press Release:
Teenager being Oppressed because she is Arab and Muslim
Three Years without trial date: Half Million dollar Bail Set
"The believing men and the believing women are EACH OTHERS' protecting friends and guardians...." (The Qur'an 9:71)
The Man who rapes a woman should be killed. (Summary of Prophet Muhammad's Hadith, pbuh. See Text in LIBERATION OF WOMEN THRU ISLAM.)
"Treat women gently, o anjasha, (as if they are glass vessels which will break)." (Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, hadith)
On August 21, 2001 Barbara Nimri Aziz of New York's widely heard WBAI radio interviewed Sis.. Eileen Rodan (Atlantic City, NJ) and Dr. Kaukab Siddique (Baltimore, Maryland) about the case of Sis. Haila Gabr. Sis. Haila is the Yemeni teenager who killed her rapist, a predator who abducted and assaulted her. Most people who kill in self-defense in rape cases are released on bail, but the judge showed "American justice" when he announced such high bail ($500,000) that she cannot be bailed out.
After nearly three years, the court case has not begun and Haila is being held in a dirty, crowded prison. Sis. Eileen provided precise details about the suffering of Haila. Br. Kaukab called on Muslims, Arabs and people of conscience to join the committee to defend and free Haila.
Br. Kaukab described the exploitation of women in America's system which leads to widespread crimes against women as "INSTITUTIONALIZED PROSTITUTION." Sis. Eileen, who herself is "White", said that if Haila had been a blue-eyed blonde, she would have been released on bail long ago. She is being treated in this shameful way because she is Arab and Muslim.
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Some interesting developments are taking place as the news of the interview spread. We will keep you informed.
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Join the Committee to Defend and Free Haila Gabr. Give some time and ability. Send donations to: Jamaat al-Muslimeen, POB 10881, Baltimore, MD 21234
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BAITUL SALAAM of Atlanta is organizing a campaign to stop violence against women, including domestic violence. See our next posting.
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Jamaat al-Muslimeen unites women and men under the banner of taqwa and jihad based on Qur'an and hadith. If you want to join the struggle, call: 410-435-4046
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For Haila Gabr's prison address: www. NewTrendMag.org click on java frames, click on NEWS, click on HAILA.
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THOUSANDS WILL RALLY FOR IMAM JAMIL on SEPTEMBER 14 and 15 in Atlanta's Woodruff Park. Behind Imam Jamil too there is a great woman, his wife Sis. Karima.
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luque (Guest)
28-08-2001, 06:31
I would agree with you brother about the act of injustice by that particular judge. But I wouldn't be so agree for brother to put the word USA. Because USA means 200 million of population. Many of them would also disagree by the injustice.
The generalization of the wrong act of one cannot mean also the act of others.
We all should condemn the injustice by that judge. I couldn't imagine what I would do if she is my own sister. With the limited ability that I have, I just feel so sad. Hopefully, those around particular place would give some pressure for the government to realise what have been done by the judge. Hopefully she will be out soon.
Salam.
Assalamu-alaikum:
You have misunderstood me. I did not condemn all Americans. In fact the brothers and sisters who have denounced the oppression of our sister are American.
With regards to American justice, i.e. what the American system makes available, is failing abysmally as we see with what's going on around the World and in their own backyard.
Wa-salaam,
sure
Assalaamu alaikum.
Perhaps this was, yes, the injustice of a single judge. However, it seems to be a trend of most law enforcement officers as well as the justice system in general, that they have this tendency towards prejudice when anything involves muslims.
When merely the word or name 'muslim' is mentioned, it very frequently conjures up in the common American's mind pictures and images of terrorists. When they see a woman wearing the hijab, they automatically think: 'oppression, terrorism'.
Granted, not all Americans will think that way, but a vast majority of them will and do.
It would be interesting to make a survey of the general public of Americans, asking questions like: 'When you hear the word 'islam' or 'muslim'...what do you think of?' or... 'When you see a woman in full islamic dress (including the scarf-hijab), what is your impression of her and her family?'
Perhaps an organization such as CAIR could carry out such a survey. The results would help us to realize the true general feeling and understanding of the vast majority of the U.S. public, as well as give us an idea rather than assuming that their beliefs are such. As well, such a survey would enable us to tackle the problem at hand: dealing with and educating the people in order to do away with the misconceptions of Islam.
It is such misconceptions and pre-conceptions which give people biased opinions of muslims, and make the tendency to prejudice easier.
Lulua.
Luque (Guest)
30-08-2001, 06:36
To brot. Lulua and sure,
I believe even if one thousand person are bad, still the 1001th who is not still unfair to be label such.
I also believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Ceteris Paribus, others who do not involve in the matter of prisoning that poor young girl should not be label as support the thing that we believe as wrong thing. The wrong that has been done by that judge is still wrong. But why do we want to do the same by labeling the whole American as agree with that. They are also like us having hands and feet tight.
I would agree with you Lulua to do the survey. I have friends American Christians and also American Jews. They all agree about not doing the wrong thing. They all accept me as their friends may be with the way I understand Qur'an and with the image I portrayed.
Like I said in the other posting, we are having different faith. Only Allah knows and be able to decide whether yours or mine will be accepted by him in hereafter.
Some of your types of understanding Islam will call the types of my understanding of Islam as Kufr, Munafiq and so on. I still don't care. Because I believe Allah still accept my way of understanding it. But if people of your type of understanding start to go physical, I think people of my types also know how to go physical.
Allah create Men and Women, different in race and nation, for us to know each other and respect not to change other to be like us.God can do that if he wants that.
Luque.
Assalaamu alaikum.
Just a reminder for Luque:
Beware of the friendship that is being offered to you from the American Christians and American Jews. Perhaps it is time to review for yourself why they are offering you that friendship. You have mentioned that your understanding of their friendship is because of your own interpretation of and implementation of the Quran. Hmm...that is interesting. Sounds to me like that you are imitating their way of life, their way of religion, and their way of belief, and therefore they are happy with that and have offered to you their friendship.
For I know very well, from personal experience, that Christians and Jews are not happy with true muslims who follow the Quran and the Sunnah, the way and life and example of our beloved prophet Mohammed (SAAW).
Also, we have been warned in the Quran of befriending the Christians and Jews to that extent. There is nothing wrong in living amiacably with them, we are advised to do so, as long as they are not being oppressive or dangerous to us, nor preventing our practice of religion.
'Let not the Believers take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than Believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.'s.3, v.28.
'It is never the wish of those without Faith among the People of the Book, nor of the Pagans, that anything good should come down to you from your Lord. But Allah will choose for His special mercy whom He will for Allah is Lord of grace abounding.'s. 2, v.105.
A strong and important argument to beware of the 'friendship' offered to you from the kufar is the following verse, coupled with advice from the prophet(SAAW) himself warning against taking the habits and practices of the kufar...for he stated that those who follow a thing (i.e. practice of a people) becomes as if from those people. In other words, a muslim who imitates the ways and life and practices of the kufar, although he or she is a claimed muslim..(unless he/she changes before death and returns to islamic lifestyle), is as if he/she were actually a kafir, and not in truth a muslim. Allah knows best.
The following verse is the aforementioned strong argument:
'Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed. From selfish envy, after the Truth hath become manifest unto them: but forgive and overlook, till Allah accomplisheth His purpose: for Allah hath power over all things.'s. 2, v. 109.
The friendship offered to you may or may not be in truth friendship...but either way, beware of it. And even more so...beware of becoming like the kufar to the extent that you die and are raised up among them, and counted on the judgement day as a kafir, and not a muslim.
To be a muslim means not only to state your belief in Allah, but to live your life as a muslim...in all aspects of life. That means to pray, fast, give in charity, make the pilgrimage, as well as many other points which I am sure that you and others are aware of.
We are fortunate to have as an example the prophet(SAAW), who lived the life of the perfect and exemplary muslim...he eminated the Quran and it's teachings in his daily life...giving us fine example of human possibility of reaching the goal of attaining the pleasure of Allah, and following that which has been commanded and written for us.
The prophet(SAAW) and his wives and companions(ARA) were not angels, but humans like you and me, capable of and actually making mistakes. But they were examples for us, and testimony to the fact that it is humanly possible to follow God's orders.
May Allah guide all to His directives and enable all to follow them.
Lulua.
Luque (Guest)
03-09-2001, 05:36
Thanks for reminding me of that, Lulua.
Unfortunately I don't believe the way you do. Allah is the most powerful. If Allah feels any group of human are the enemies for his groups of loves one, Allah will definately destroy the group of the enemies. But it seems the one get destroyed are the one that claimed the group that Allah loves. So this way it looks as if Allah likes to help his enemies. So I rest my case.
So you live the way you want to believe and I live the way I want to believe. May be we share the same name of religion. Mine I called Islam that believe in logic not magic.
Luque.
Assalaamu alaikum.
Islam is to an extent based on logic, reaching to the logic of the human mind. But, remember, that it is not all logic...for it is based as well on faith. Logic is a result of knowledge...and knowledge without faith is nothing...while faith is everything, even if you have little knowledge.
That is not magic...it is totally different. I am talking about faith...as it is clearly stated to us in the first 5 verses of S. Al-Baqarah, in that a basic essence of faith is faith in that which we cannot see...that which we have been told of, yet we cannot see.
We have been commanded within the Quran of certain things...such as prayer, fasting, making the pilgrimage, as well as following the prophet. Sure, it is finally up to the individual whether or not they follow those directives. And the penalty/reward for doing so is also clearly stated within the Quran. That is Islam...not interpreting it into something which fits comfortably with what you want out of the pleasures of this life...but Islam is peacefully and willingly submitting to the will and direction of Allah...and serving Him and worshipping Him. If one does not do that, then one is not a muslim...for that is the basic definition of a muslim. And to knowingly reject the signs of Allah, one incurs upon himself/herself dire consequences.
Lulua
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