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Lulua
29-08-2002, 01:12
U.S. Wants Saddam Out, with or Without Inspections

August 28, 2002 06:19 PM ET

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By Randall Mikkelsen

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - The United States will seek the removal of President Saddam Hussein whether or not he allows a resumption of U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq, a U.S. official said on Wednesday.

"The case for regime change is broader than just WMD (weapons of mass destruction)," the official told Reuters, speaking on condition that he not be identified.

In remarks that stirred renewed unease around the globe, Vice President Dick Cheney this week said the U.S. case against Saddam also rested on what he said was the Iraqi leader's role as a supporter of terrorism and the threat he posed to regional stability.

U.S. allies have called on Washington to give the United Nations and other international bodies a chance to try diplomacy before any military action.

Iraq's neighbor Turkey, the only Muslim member of NATO which has been providing a base for current U.S. military flights over northern Iraq, reiterated its opposition to any imminent military action.

China and India, the world's two most populous nations, stressed their opposition to the use of force, and staunch U.S. ally Hosni Mubarak of Egypt has warned of widespread unrest across the Arab world should the United States act alone.

Skepticism also surfaced on Capital Hill.

Sen. John Warner of Virginia, top Republican on the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, called for more congressional inquiry into President Bush's demand for "regime change" in Iraq.

WHITE HOUSE STANDS BY 'REGIME CHANGE'

Citing what he called a "crescendo" of debate, Warner said the committee should hear from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, widely seen as a leading supporter of pre-emptive military action. The House of Representatives was planning hearings of its own.

But the U.S. official called Saddam a supporter of terrorism and a threat to the region, saying these were also crucial parts of the U.S. case against the Iraqi leader, with the demand for weapons inspections.

Asked whether there was anything Saddam could do to change the U.S. determination to oust him, the official said there was not. "Regime change is the policy of this government," he said.

Washington would, however, keep pressing Saddam to readmit U.N. inspectors and honor his commitments to disarm, he said.

The United Nations evacuated its inspectors from Iraq in December 1998, accusing the Iraqis of obstructing their work. Within weeks the United States and Britain staged Operation Desert Fox, a massive four-night bombing campaign against suspected Iraqi weapons facilities, missile sites and other military targets. The weapons inspectors have not returned.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan declined to say directly whether Saddam could avoid a U.S. attempt to oust him. However, "this is a regime that needs to be changed," he told reporters covering Bush during his vacation Texas.

CONCERN AMONG AMERICANS

Widespread disquiet abroad has been increasingly mirrored at home, and analysts say the issue could become central to the November congressional elections.

"There is no question ... we've taken a major step toward preparing for war," said military analyst Ken Allard, a retired Army colonel and adjunct national security professor at Georgetown University.

McClellan said the White House would cooperate with the planned congressional hearings -- in contrast with its unwillingness to send representatives to a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iraq last month. "We look forward to participating and being cooperative with Congress as those hearings are held," he said.

The White House on Monday said Bush's lawyers had concluded he did not need formal congressional approval to attack Iraq, although it left the door open to seeking a vote of support. Key Democrats and some Republicans responded by demanding Bush seek approval for any attack.

Former assistant defense secretary Lawrence Korb, vice president of the Council on Foreign Relations think tank, said the administration appeared to be fighting to regain momentum for attacking Iraq.

Some senior former Republican foreign policy and defense officials have spoken out against an attack in recent weeks, adding to the sense of disunity in the president's own party.

Bush's special Middle East envoy, retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, was one of the latest to raise his voice when he said an attack would be antagonistic to U.S. allies in the region, according to Florida newspaper reports of a speech he delivered last Friday.

"It's pretty interesting that all the generals see it the same way," Zinni said of reservations about an attack, "and all the others who have never fired a shot and are hot to go to war see it another way."

McClellan said the White House regarded such comments as reflecting a "healthy debate" encouraged by Bush.


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sure786
29-08-2002, 13:44
Assalamu-alaikum and greetings:

USA's bigotry is so big, and so are their lies, that they forget Israel that doesn't comply with UN resolutions and for decades.

If USA and their Tony "poodle" Blair want Iraq to comply with UN resolutions their bigotry and double standards with Israel have to end.

As with Afghanistan the reality is petroleum and control over the natural resources of the Muslim Ummah. That's the fact - the rest is lies!

BinZiad
29-08-2002, 15:30
So true..from brother sure786.

attacking iraq with;

1-no evidence
2-no proof
3-no support
4-no future plans
5- et.c...

ANd they are the 'police' of the world..the role model..and they want to attack a country for what 'mass weapons'..? what about the weapoons of isreal..?..such people..!

RCG
06-09-2002, 06:22
Originally posted by BinZiad
So true..from brother sure786.

attacking iraq with;

1-no evidence
2-no proof
3-no support
4-no future plans
5- et.c...

ANd they are the 'police' of the world..the role model..and they want to attack a country for what 'mass weapons'..? what about the weapoons of isreal..?..such people..!

No proof, no evidence blah blah blah......this is exactly what you were saying before last October before the US went into Afghanistan. And yet when evidence was found that implicated OBL........it was denied or ignored. Just wait and see when it comes to Iraq possessing chemical weapons. They still have them.

Lulua
07-09-2002, 22:33
And what about the countless other countries on this earth which possess chemical, biological, nuclear and other weapons???

RCG
09-09-2002, 05:28
<<And what about the countless other countries on this earth which possess chemical, biological, nuclear and other weapons???>>

Which of these other countries have been threatening other countries with those weapons. Hussein threatened to use such weapons if the UN used military force to eject his army from Kuwait. With his already known track record of using these weapons during the Iran-Iraq war and also his use of chemical weapons against defenceless civilians in his own country.......why does everyone have such a problem comprehending that such a lunatic needs to be removed?
So what about the other countries? You tell me when and where they threatened their neighboring countries.

As for Iraq take a look at the threats they are making recently.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,61769,00.html

"When a (military) confrontation occurs, it is Iraq's right to confront any country anywhere and at any time,"

Sounds like an open threat to me.

Lulua
09-09-2002, 12:12
For one, the US has and still does to this day...use such weapons as threats to countries worldwide. When they are not in favor or agreement of that countrie's leadership or whatever methods they have in interacting with the rest of the world.

As well as the many threats carried out by it's 'sister' country-Israel. Not only threats...but threats which they carry out as well.

Not to mention the countless other countries which do have possession of such weapons.

Doesn't anyone find it odd or questionable...the current US policy of insistence upon attacking Iraq...regardless if they allow US or international inspection teams??And this...against the wishes and agreement of the rest of the world community (including normal US allies)???

sure786
09-09-2002, 13:03
Hello RCG:

As far as I know the only country that occcupies other countries' territories is Israel, despite all UN resolutions.

Iraq paid a heavy price for its rightful desire to reintegrate Kuwait (it was the British who created this artificial country).

It's Israel that has openly weapons of mass destruction and has promised to use them if necessary. Israel uses without reluctance advanced American weapons in violation of the principle that these weapons can only be used in self defence and against another army, not civilians as it happens. When Indonesia faced a similar revolt against occupation in Eastern Timor, US didn't allow the Indonesian military to use these weapons. We are used to double standards.

Just as with Afghanistan (with Central Asia) what drives Bush-Cheney is the vast resources of Iraq's oil. US wants to usurp the resources of Muslims, and nobody seems to be able to stop their greed.

The rest is just stories. Let's see what US has been doing to distort world opinion in their favour:

- Mary Robinson UN High Comissioner for Human Rights that has "officially" retired after one-year renewal of her contract. US ferociously lobbied against her reappointment. US could not forgive her for her stance on Middle East issues and her endorsement of last year's UN Durban Conference on Racism, from which both Israel and US waked out in synchronism.

- Robert Watson much respected chair of Intergovernamental Panel on Climate Change. After leaked memo from ExxonMobil the White House asked "Can Watson be replaced now at the request of US?"

- Jose Mauricio Bustani, a Brazilian, the head of Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, a mere year after he had been unanimously elected for a second 5-year term. This year US asked Brazil to recall him, Bustaini remarked "By dismissing me... an international precedence will have been established whereby any duly elected head of any international organization would at any point during his or her tenure remain vulnerable to the whims of one or a few major contributors. US is a major contributor.

Who's the next target? May be:

- Hanz Blix. who heads UNMOVIC responsible for arms inspections on Iraq. Paul Wolfowitz, Under Secretary of Defense, has reportedly order a CIA investigation of Blix. If Blix's team goes into Iraq and gives the regime a clean bill of health.

- Terje Roead Larsen, one of the main agents in establishing the Oslo agreements between Israel and the Palestinians, and UN's special coordinator for the peace process. Why? Because of fact findings on Jenin massacre.

Of course the list of possible new targets of American hegemony grows daily. It's said that Koffi Annan may have to pay the price for his public exasperation with Sharon's behaviour.

Luckily not all of us are blind and deaf. We see the plot and US government's warmongering.

:mad: