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servant_of_Allah
09-01-2002, 02:10
LAST EDITED ON 09-01-02 AT 01:28 AM (GMT)[p]The following had reached me vial email. Plz note, i am only quoting verbatim the information i received. I have not verified it.

Muslim Leaders Salute Will Smith
>>
>>Muslim leaders across America are saluting Will Smith for embracing
>>their religion after completing the Muhammad Ali biopic. Smith
>>was introduced to the religion while learning about the legendary
>>boxer's life - Islam is Ali's religion of choice. Friends close
>>to Smith claim the megastar is now embracing the religion in
>>his own life and is eager to learn more about it. Director of
>>the American Muslim Association of North America, Sofian Zakkout
>>says, "Muhammad Ali is one of the best examples of Muslims in
>>this country. He's been a wonderful spokesperson for the religion
>>and if Will Smith can continue Muhammad Ali's work that would
>>be wonderful." He continues, "Islam is a peaceful religion and
>>if good people such as Muhammad and Will can carry that message
>>then it would be wonderful. It would be a positive message for
>>peaceful Muslims all over the world." Smith appeared at the
>>America: A Tribute To Heroes telethon in September alongside
>>Ali, defending Islam in the wake of the terrorist attacks in
>>New York and Washington.

I have a few questions for the Christians on this forum, especially JBJ and jcecil3.

The questions are:
What are your comments on this piece of information?
Do you trust it?

I have merely passed the information on, as it was passed on to me. I have not verified it.

Bye,
Servant of Allah.





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JBJ
09-01-2002, 06:57
Hi Servant of Allah!

I don't know whether to trust your message or not. I haven't heard anywhere else that this is true, nor have I heard of this as a false rumor. Perhaps time will tell.

Either way, I find very little value in it. Others have converted to Islam in the past, others will in the future. The same for Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Baha'ism, Church of Later Day Saints (Mormons), Jehovah's Witness, Wiccan, etc, etc, etc. None of that really means anything.

What would mean something to me is if a non-Muslim who studied Islam but had firm reasons for not becoming Muslim (logical, spiritual, etc), and then became Muslim. To my knowledge Will Smith wasn't profoundly anti-Islamic but similar to the other thousands of American Muslim converts every year.

Again, I think it's only for the individual to decide what the truth. To trust in another human being is foolish, because no one can ever truly know the heart of that person, only Allah can. Even if Billy Graham became Muslim or Ahmad Deedat became Christian, it wouldn't matter. One's fate is only one's own responsibility, and should only be placed in the hands of that person and Allah.

JBJ

servant_of_Allah
09-01-2002, 11:54
Hi JBJ !

So, the question is, would you trust any such unverified and unconfirmed reports?

Would you trust such reports, despite the fact that the author has not verified them, and has actually even mentioned that. Would you, despite that, believe Will Smith or anyone else accepted Islam, or anything else?

That is my main question for you.

Bye,
Servant of Allah.

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sure786
09-01-2002, 13:42
Dear JBJ:

I am surprised with your response. Though it's true that only Allah knows one's heart, these reverts (I don't call them converts because they are returning to the original faith Islam) may be a source of inspiration, and something we can learn from. We are not just individuals, but parts of families, and these are parts of communities so I beg to differ again from you. That's why there's such a harsh punishment to any Muslim who converts to other religion or stops believing in Allah and his Messenger.

Also is it just a coincidence your mention Brother Ahmad Deedat? I know some Christians hate him, and correct me if I am wrong you used some strong words in the past here in IWC about this very good man, that I was fortunate to know personally.

sure

JaLaaL
09-01-2002, 22:02
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jcecil3
09-01-2002, 23:55
LAST EDITED ON 09-01-02 AT 11:07 PM (GMT)[p]Greetings!

I don't know if it's true, and even if it is, what difference does it make to my life? If it's true, I hope it brings him closer to God than whatever he believed before.

I don't look to movie stars to decide my religion, since too many movie stars are drug and sex addicted people who sometimes act like morons in their personal lives. I can't judge the heart, but I pray for them based on their actions reported in the media.

For some reason only the Holy Spirit knows, I am moved to pray more for Madonna than any popular media personality,.., followed by Cybil Shepherd for her stances on abortion. Most of the time, when I pray for stars at all, I just pray generally that all artist will glorify God and benefit humanity in some way.

After making Seven Years in Tibet, interviewers asked Brad Pitt what he thought of Bhuddism and freedom for Tibet, and he responded, "Who gives a f--k what I think? I'm an actor,..., not a politician or a theologian." Brad spoke the truth.

If a few movie stars embrace religion and use it positively, that's cool.....even if it's a different religion than mine.

Other than that, I have no comment.

Peace and Blessings!

jcecil3

servant_of_Allah
10-01-2002, 11:55
I think the topic has strayed away from my original question. Now, i will ask a question to the Christians only.

Do you accept any stories, which are unconfirmed and unverified, but have only been narrated, verbatim. You can take this Will Smith story as an example, of an unconfirmed report, which i quoted verbatim for you, in the exact some form i was told by the one who sent it to me, but i did not verify it, and added it on Aliasoft for all of you to read. Do you accept such stories to be the truth? Or do you feel they are not to be considered so long as they are unconfirmed?

Oh, and thank you for your comments on the matter (which addressed my first question).

Bye,
Servant of Allah.

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JBJ
11-01-2002, 00:42
Hi Servant of Allah!

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. I mean that I wouldn't make a judgement without seeing real evidence. Lack of evidence implies falsness, but doesn't neccessitate it. It may be true or may not. It's like asking, "do believe I have a pen in my pocket?" It could easily go either way. I don't trust your report, but I wouldn't say it's false because I've seen no evidence to say it's false. Does that answer your question?

JBJ

JBJ
11-01-2002, 00:43
Hi Sure,

I'm not sure what you meant by a coincidence with Deedat. He's the first well known Muslim who came to mind (besides political leaders), that's all. I don't hate him at all, and though I don't know anything about his more personal life, I'll trust you that he is a good man.

I agree, conversion stories do provide much inspiriation, and I'm not belittling that aspect of them at all. What I mean is that it's very improper to say, "This man converted to this religion, therefore everyone should convert to this religion."

Salaam,

JBJ

servant_of_Allah
15-01-2002, 15:31
Hi JBJ !

Thanks for the reply. Yes, i wouldn't expect you to trust my report, since i have not authenticated it or verified it, but merely copy pasted it here, as i received it.
I agree, you can't say it is false without any evidence. You can't say it is the truth without any evidence.

But, you do not trust it because there is no verification or authentication. Am i getting you correct on this point? You are not willing to trust it as there has been no verification?

Bye,
Servant of Allah.

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Rasha
13-03-2002, 06:07
Assalamu alikom

muslims please be more careful with what you spread around... there is lots of garbage out there!!

I heard this claim that Will smith became a muslim.... similarly i got another email saying that he did not and this is a lie!! so... be careful...

remember... our job is to do what the generations before us did.. when a person heard a hadith (saying of the prophet) he would go to many sahaba and varify it before actually spreading it... we should do the same!!

May Allah guide us all to what he loves, Ameen.
Rasha

LivingforChrist
14-03-2002, 05:39
the conversion of Will Smith is not for me to judge as truth or falseness. I worry about what I am to do about spreading God's word and living as best as I can in order to glorfiy God.

Only God can judge a man's heart

servant_of_Allah
14-03-2002, 19:21
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Assalamu Alaykum Dear Sister Rasha !

In order to understand why i posted this message on Will Smith here, and why i asked for replies, specifically from Christians, you will have to read the thread "The Prophet Protected !", which was started by Brother Jalaal.

The URL is : http://www.aliasoft.com/iwc/index.cgi?az=read_count&om=104&forum=DCForumID4&viewmode=threaded

Wassalamu Alaykum,
Servant of Allah.

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Rasha
15-03-2002, 03:20
:)

ooops... did i mess up again :)

well i'll try to get to it inshaAllah..... :)

[samehni ya akhee]

Rasha
15-03-2002, 03:20
(samehni ya akhee)