The ten commandments and confirmation from the Quran.

[Om_Mohammed]

Assalaamu alaikum.

I have found this study at another site...and found it to be rather an intersting study of value to comparative religion studies. Why, then, in societies which are based on principles of christianity and/or judaism...is there such basic immoral lifestyles? The separation of the religion from the governing body is a pertinent answer in this. All secular socities could learn a lot from basic and early muslim communities.

Om Mohammed.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS & THE
CONFIRMATION IN THE QURAN


The Ten Commandments
(Exodus 12: 1-17 & Deuteronomy 5: 6-21)
Confirmation in the Quran
(Chapter: Verse)

1. Thou shall not take any God except one God.
1. There is no God except
one God (47:19)

2. Thou shall make no image of God.
2. There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him (42:11)

3. Thou shall not use God’s name in vain.
3. Make not God's name an
excuse to your oaths (2:224)

4. Thou shall honor thy mother and father.
4. Be kind to your parents if one
or both of them attain old age in thy
life, say not a word of contempt nor
repel them but address them in
terms of honor. (17:23)

5. Thou shall not steal.
5. As for the thief, male or female cut off
his or her hands, but those who repent
After a crime and reform shall be
forgiven by God for God is forgiving
and kind. (5:38 - 39)

6. Thou shall not lie or give false testimony.
6. They invoke a curse of God if
they lie. (24:7) Hide not the
testimony (2:283)

Thou shalt not kill.
7. If anyone has killed one person it is as
if he had killed the whole mankind (5:32)

Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Do not come near adultery. It is an indecent deed and a way for other
evils. (17:32)

Thou shall not covet thy neighbors’ wife or possessions.
9, Do good to your parents, relatives and
neighbors. (4:36) Saying of the Prophet
Muhammad (P) "One of the greatest sins
is to have illicit sex with your neighbors wife".

10. Thou shall keep the Sabbath holy.
10. When the call for the Friday Prayer is
made, hasten to the remembrance of
God and leave off your business. (62:9)

[alhamdliyesu]

love it

[Nzingha]

as salaam alaikum

the commandments can be found in surah Baqarah.. however we do not uphold the sabbath. Jumah is not a day of sabbath.. for we do not take off the whole day like those who keep the sabbath. This requirement has been abrogated for us.. but all others upheld.

ma salaam
nzingha

[Om_Mohammed]

Assalaamu alaikum.

Yea...well, I do realize and know that we do not recognize the sabbath as were the jews commanded. However, there is some similarity. Like I said, anyways...it was a study which I have come across at another site...not of my own writing or comparison. I found it rather interesting, really...and there are many similarities. Although, as muslims...we must take and follow that which was given to us, without comparing with other or previous religions.

And...if you love it, then you should follow it.

Om Mohammed

[jcecil3]

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> Why, then, in societies
>which are based on principles
>of christianity and/or judaism...is there
>such basic immoral lifestyles? The
>separation of the religion from
>the governing body is a
>pertinent answer in this. All
>secular socities could learn a
>lot from basic and early
>muslim communities.
>

I believe that you answered your own question. The separation of Church and state has created an environment where some people ignore God's principles.

Separation of Church and state was intended to allow people to worship according to their conscience without interference from the government. It was not intended to be freedom FROM religion. Rather, it was intended to be freedom OF religious expression. Americans value this freedom strongly. Most of the European immigrants to the USA were running form religious persecution of one type or another.

Here in the United States, there are Christian groups advocating for mandatory school prayer, posting the ten commandments on classroom walls in publically funded schools, classes about the Bible in publically funded schools, classes regarding civil ethics, laws against pornagraphy, stricter penalties for drug trafficking and laws limiting the sale of alcohol.

The secularists argue that morality cannot be imposed by the state. They also argue that the laws suggested by these Christian groups would force Muslims and Jews in this country to learn Christianity. Furthermore, the secularist argue that the freedoms we have, while sometimes degrading, help prevent the abuse of power by both Church and state.

From an American AND Christian perspective, some of the laws of other nations are too harsh for the crime. In the eighth chapter of the gospel according to John, Jesus frees a woman caught in the act of adultery from the death penalty commanded by the law. He does so by asking the person without sin to cast the first stone. If we honest with ourselves, we have all broken the ten commandments at some point in our lives. I am even opposed to the U.S. allowing the death penalty for crimes of violence! God is merciful, and we should be too.

While I like to consider myself a devout Christian, and I would like to see a moral revival in the USA, I think that the freedom allowed in the USA prevents some of the hypocrisy that even the Qur'an condemns. I DO want religious revival to happen in the heart, even if there are no laws to enforce it. In fact, I believe that God would prefer that we followed him without coercion by the state! As Saint Paul writes, "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." (2 Corinthians 3:17).

Thus, while I am appalled by drug abuse, high divorce rates, abortion, etc...that have become common in the West, I would give my life to defend the right of religious liberty. I wish to protect the the basic human dignity, rights, and respect due to secularists as well as religious people.

Most people in the USA are actually generally religious, but we value our freedoms and realize that the secularists have a right to live the way they want, as long as they don't interfere with our religious practice. Despite their influence in the media and government, only about 10% of the U.S. population would define themselves as atheists or agnostics. Over 80% still define themselves as some type of Christian. Over 75% of the population prays daily in some form according to all the polls.

I grew up attending privately funded Catholic schools. The Muslims have such schools in the USA as well. Private schools are ascending in popularity as secularism becomes more pervasive in public schools and the media. There are alternatives to government interference to build strong communities with moral family values!

Ultimately, I like to tell my human secularist friends that Christianity is the ultimate form of humanism -- we declare that God became a human person! How much more can you value humanity than that? But I guess this argument would not work for Muslims.

I don't know where everyone is writing from. What are the perspectives of those outside the USA on the issue of separation of church and state?