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BinZiad
24-06-2003, 01:59
Harry Potter: Facts about Fiction
By Khalid Baig
Posted: 21 Rabi-u-Thani 1424, 21 June 2003

As expected there was much frenzy around the latest Harry Potter book. Bookstores and clubs around the world arranged special midnight parties and other events in celebration of the launching of the long-awaited fifth book in the series. A grandiose countdown was held in Times Square for the coming of the fifth book.

The book was set to break many old records. Online bookseller Amazon had already received one million pre-orders of the new book, its largest pre-order ever. Scholastic, the American publisher had ordered 8.5 million copies as the largest first printing ever. Worldwide, 13 million copies of the book had rolled off the presses in a massive print run.

The other books in the Harry Potter series have been translated into more than 55 languages, including Urdu, Persian, and Turkish. Nearly 200 million copies of the first four books have been sold in 200 countries.

What is all this craze about?

The series chronicles the growing up of a young orphan wizard named Harry Potter who attends a secret magic boarding school called Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

Harry is a very unique wizard. His parents are killed while he is a baby by a wicked powerful wizard named Voldemort, but generally called "you-know-who" or "he-who-must-not-be-named". Voldemort fails in his attempt to kill Harry and instead is nearly destroyed when his magic rebounds on him. Harry is left with a lightning shaped scar on his forehead.

Harry is sent to live with his "muggle" (non-magical people) relatives for the next ten years. He lives a miserable life, tormented by his aunt and uncle and his spoiled cousin. They attempt to keep him from knowing that he is a wizard.

Then, suddenly a letter arrives from Hogwarts on his eleventh birthday, changing his life completely. Harry finds out he is a wizard and rather famous for his encounter with the evil lord Voldemort. Despite opposition from his aunt and uncle, Harry goes to the wizard boarding school where he meets new people, including his best friends Ron and Hermione. Harry discovers that he has both admirers and enemies.

Each book details the events of one school year.

The main characters in the story have few noble qualities; they lie with impunity, use profanity, don't respect their elders, break rules regularly, and are unrepentant.

While the books are characterized by most people as innocent fantasy and entertainment, they contain many evil messages - not all of which are subtle.

The books glorify magic and sorcery. Harry and his classmates regularly cast spells, brew potions, learn to tell the future, communicate with the spirits of the dead, train magical animals, and ride brooms. They study astrology, crystal gazing, numerology, transfiguration, and divination. Darker things occur as well such as murder, human sacrifice, drinking of unicorn blood, etc. The fight between good and evil in this book is actually a conflict between "good magic" and "evil magic", both of which are evil.

The books are in effect promoters of paganism. They glorify magic and paganism while non-magical people, called Muggles, are despised and portrayed as boring, narrow-minded, and paranoid of magic.

Not surprisingly, the main characters in the story have few noble qualities; they lie with impunity, use profanity, don't respect their elders, break rules regularly, and are unrepentant.

And for all these qualities and more, the books are popular and are having an effect. It is the "in" thing to purchase the book. And not just the book. Children have gone crazy over Harry Potter memorabilia, surrounding themselves with Harry Potter T-shirts, posters, toys, costumes, wands, hats, etc.

The media has been glorifying the book that glorifies sorcery.

Welcome to the world of capitalism and paganism, where superstitions and the occult reign supreme in the hearts and minds of people, and where the twin forces have forged an "alliance of the willing" that is doing its "magic" on a global scale.

Capitalism is all about maximization of profits and if that requires appealing to the lowest instincts and the darkest recesses of human nature, so be it. Millions of dollars have been spent on advertising the latest craze on billboards, buttons, bumper stickers, and posters etc. U.S. publisher Scholastic alone has planned a $4 million marketing budget for this single book - among the largest advertising budgets ever for a book.

The media machine --- equally adept at political, cultural, and commercial propaganda --- has been doing its part faithfully, paying a great deal of attention to the smallest events relating to the coming of the fifth book. It has been glorifying the book that glorifies sorcery.

Even if it were innocent entertainment (which it is not) the extreme devotion would be unjustified. But this culture is given to extremes and incidents of mass craziness are nothing new in it. The cabbage patch dolls craze in the 1980s was similar to current craze over the Harry Potter books. The Cabbage Patch Dolls were the fad of the 1980s. The most distinctive feature about them was that each doll looked a bit different from others and came with its own unique name and birthday, "adoption papers," and a "birth certificate." Marketing gimmick and television coverage combined to make sales explode starting in 1983. Chartered planes were used to bring the dolls from the overseas manufacturing plants to meet the ever increasing demand. Fist fights among eager customers often broke out in retail stores when a shipment of dolls arrived. In 1985, Coleco posted record sales of $600 million, thanks to their Cabbage Patch Kids.

When life has no higher purpose, entertainment and fun become the over-riding goal in life. When there is no belief in or clear concept of God as Creator and Master of the universe, superstition, sorcery, and the occult become fascinating.

When life has no higher purpose, entertainment and fun become the over-riding goal in life.

It is a reflection on the state of the society that there has been scarce opposition to this series that promises to become darker with each new release.

The Role of Muslims

In this current state of hysteria, Muslims should have played an important role in opposing this book and exposing the flaws of this culture. It is the duty of Muslims to guide the world, rather than blindly follow the ignorant masses. The Qur'an commands us in S urah Al-Kahf, "And don't obey any whose heart We have permitted to neglect the remembrance of Us, one who follows his own desires, whose case has gone beyond all bounds." [Al-Kahf 18:28]

Yet, unfortunately, we find very little opposition or reflection from Muslims, many of whom have chosen to blindly follow the pop culture. Many Muslims have assured themselves that the books are harmless fiction. Others even claim them to be beneficial because they encourage reading. Reading what? It does not occur to them to ask that question.

Islam prohibits both pointless entertainment (lahw) and sorcery. But countless Muslims seem to be unaware of that. And they are the ones fascinated by Harry Potter.

http://www.albalagh.net/current_aff...ry_potter.shtml

Lulua
24-06-2003, 04:07
Assalaamu alaikum.

Harry Potter has caused a world-wide rage, for sure.

I have read newspaper reports since the release of the first episode of the books...even before the advent of the films...that children in some of the US states...have learned some magic potions and practices...from reading the books...and have used such methods on their elders...parents, guardians, even school teachers...in order to get them to do as they(the children) please.

I also read a newspaper report of a town in a western state of the US...where the residents...christians...who raised quite a stir in prohibiting the books from their local stores...and even prevented a scheduled signing bid as a part of the author's tour. They raised formal complaint with the governor and mayor of their region...and simply would not allow those books and the eventual release of the films...in their town.

But that was only an isolated situation. Sadly, the rest of the world has fallen for the rhetoric of this fiction. But it is a fiction which is not necessarily harmless.

May Allah protect us all from such evils.

Lulua.

Rose
02-07-2003, 21:21
Bismillah Irahmen Irahem

Salam Alikom

Uhm.. I have read the Harry Potter books. Now I feel abit guilty, but I think the children who are under the age of abstract thinking take in too much of this story and try to make it as though it is real. Now, a young adult between the ages of 14-18 should be able to focus on reality and fiction/fantasy.

Masalaam

Rose

Hamad
18-07-2003, 22:50
Salam,

Feeling guilty about reading a children's book is ridiculous, not to mention a waste of time. Harry Potter is nothing but a bunch of harmless fantasy stories about good vs. evil. There is no obscenity, promiscuity or sinfull things in the books (or movies, for that matter). First the Mullahs attacked TV, then music, now books...whats next, thinking?...

Rasha
19-07-2003, 00:02
Hamad....

Feeling guilty about reading something which "might" be islamicly unacceptable simply shows awareness and love of Allah and not wanting to disobey him in any way or form. I will pray that you get that feeling too.

If you do not "agree" with a particular thing in Islam, then its up to you... but many are quite happy to be as close to Allah as could be.

Next is... these "mullahs" as you called them are far in higher status that all of us here.... yes they do make mistaks, they are not immune to sin... but they are worthy of our respect so please do show due respect to ALL scholars plz.

Best of luck!

Hamad
19-07-2003, 00:49
Indeed, we should always respect our elders, be they our parents or strangers (including Mullahs). However, Islamically, no Mullah is at a higher status than any other lay-person. This is indeed a very Christian idea about the institution of the Church and saints and priests being the middlemen between the individual and God. So, I am sorry, but I will not accept any Mullah as higher in status than any other God-fearing person. Indeed in Islam, there is nothing between the individual and Allah.

As to the question of feeling guilty because of reading an innocent book, I think that is simply blindly following what someone said about magic being haram and therefore feeling like you did a bad thing when in fact you did not. Believing in magic is indeed haram, because Allah does not want us to be a voodoo-believing supersticious people. The Harry Potter series however, does not encourage children to any supersticions, it simply provides an innocent pleasure of reading about the adventures of good vs. evil, and if we are good parents, we would read with our children and explain to them the essence of the stories.

Let us not turn into Conservative-Christian-believing-in-witchcraft people. Last I checked Islam was supposed to enlighten us, not keep us in the dark.

Asif
19-07-2003, 01:16
"Indeed, we should always respect our elders, be they our parents or strangers (including Mullahs). However, Islamically, no Mullah is at a higher status than any other lay-person. This is indeed a very Christian idea about the institution of the Church and saints and priests being the middlemen between the individual and God. So, I am sorry, but I will not accept any Mullah as higher in status than any other God-fearing person. Indeed in Islam, there is nothing between the individual and Allah."

As-Salamu-Alaikum !

I find your choice of words interesting ; "Mullah". This reveals alot <smiles>

Anyway, i prefer to use the words "Ahlul Ilm" (People of knowledge), or scholars. Indeed, we are all equal in the sight of Allah (SWT), except in terms of piety (taqwa), i.e. those who are more pious and God-fearing are closer to Allah, and have a higher status than those who are less pious.

Allah says in the Qur'an : "So ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know." (Qur'an 21:7)

You said somewhere else that one should use one's intellect. So tell me dear brother, is the one who knows equal to the one who does not know? Perhaps you may not hold the opinion that the one who has knowledge is better than the one who is ignorant, but my opinion, using my intellect, suggests that the one who has knowledge is better than the one who does not. And Allah Knows Best.

"As to the question of feeling guilty because of reading an innocent book, I think that is simply blindly following what someone said about magic being haram and therefore feeling like you did a bad thing when in fact you did not. Believing in magic is indeed haram, because Allah does not want us to be a voodoo-believing supersticious people. The Harry Potter series however, does not encourage children to any supersticions, it simply provides an innocent pleasure of reading about the adventures of good vs. evil, and if we are good parents, we would read with our children and explain to them the essence of the stories."

This is your opinion , and i guess you're entitled to your opinion. Of'course, that does not mean your opinion is correct <smiles>. The opinion of those who have knowledge is different from yours. Now, let me see.....whose opinion is correct, and whose opinion should i follow? I guess i will stick with the opinion of those who have knowledge, rather than follow my whims and desires, or rather than following the opinion of those who do not possess knowledge. And Allah Knows Best.

"Let us not turn into Conservative-Christian-believing-in-witchcraft people. Last I checked Islam was supposed to enlighten us, not keep us in the dark."

Alhamdulilah, Islam enlightens us indeed, and protects us from darkness. Alhamdulilah, the beauty of Islam is that it even forbids that which leads to the forbidden. This is indeed protecting us from darkness.

I wonder what "enlightenment" one gets from reading Harry Potter? Of'course, i haven't read it, Alhamdulilah. But, i am really wondering, what "enlightenment" did those who read it, get? How did reading this series protect the readers from "darkness"? I sure would like to know?

Ma'asalama,
The ignorant slave of Allah,
Asif.

Asif
19-07-2003, 01:27
As-Salamu-Alaikum Akhi Hamad !

I am sorry, i forgot to welcome you to our forums. I realise you're a new member, so welcome to our forums, and we hope you participate with enthusiasm on this discussion board, Insha Allah.

Ma'asalama,
Asif.

Hamad
19-07-2003, 01:46
It is interesting how you actually do use your intellect, brother. You say that it is using your intellect by following the so called, not to mention self-prescribed 'Ahlul Ilm'. You dont have to follow me or any other Ahlul Ilm blindly, but think on your own what each is saying, and then make an informed decision. That is what Allah means when He talks about using your own intellect. What stops the ordinary person from being his/her own Ahlul Ilm. Do we not bear the capacity to think (something clearly anti-Islamic). Or perhaps we are too lazy (a better argument). In any case, Allah made all equal and gave them equal intellectual capacities, no matter what society ascertains each to be. Perhaps this supersticious, witchcraft-believing ideas are the Colonial legasy, or perhaps they are cultural entanglements that Islam has not been able to eradicate yet. In either case, we should not feel guilty about reading some innocent book as haram, when we are close to commiting shirk by giving the Ulama/Mullah/Ahlul Ilm a higher place then the rest of mankind. We are indeed close to it since we have not yet said that they are the sons of God...or God forbid...an equal to Him. Let us not follow the path Christianity took, which ended in the reformation.

Indeed there are some who will be closer to God, but how do you know how close someone else is?...you can only know how close you yourself are...and how do you become closer when some preist/Mullah stands between you and the Almighty? Something to think about...

As to Harry Potter...it can indeed enlighten us (not as much as the Quran, however). As I said before, it shows us the essence of good vs. evil and tells us that the righteous will always succeed...even if they are simply magicians in a fantasy world.

As always...Allah Knows Best!

Asif
19-07-2003, 02:56
As-Salamu-Alaikum Brother Hamad !

You said : "It is interesting how you actually do use your intellect, brother. You say that it is using your intellect by following the so called, not to mention self-prescribed 'Ahlul Ilm'."

My response : If you will refer to my post, you would have noticed that i said : ".....but my opinion, using my intellect, suggests that the one who has knowledge is better than the one who does not. And Allah Knows Best."

It is in the above context, i used the words "using my intellect", i.e. I said that i believe (using my intellect) that the one who knows is superior to the one who does not know.

However, i am happy that the manner in which i use "my intellect" fascinates you. Of'course, if one who is ignorant, follows the one who has knowledge (and learns from the one who has knowledge), then this is a wise choice indeed. The ignorant person has used his/her 'intellect' and common sense, by making the wise choice of asking those who do know, since he/she does not know, and thereby obeying the command of Allah

"So ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know." (Qur'an 21:7)

You said : "You dont have to follow me or any other Ahlul Ilm blindly, but think on your own what each is saying, and then make an informed decision."

My response : I read what the Ahlul Ilm said, and i read what you said. I chose the opinion of the Ahlul Ilm, because they made strong points, in my humble opinion. Unfortunately, i didn't see you make strong points, and instead of refuting their arguments (since you believe their arguments are incorrect), you chose the path of character-assassination (by attacking the scholars). I am sure you realise, dear brother, that such a methodology does in no way strengthen your argument.

You said :"That is what Allah means when He talks about using your own intellect. What stops the ordinary person from being his/her own Ahlul Ilm."

My response : Firstly, it is plain for everyone to see, that not everyone has the same level of knowledge. Some know more than others, Alhamdulilah. Therefore, those who know not, ask those who know.

"So ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know." (Qur'an 21:7)

Your argument "What stops the ordinary person from being his/her own Ahlul Ilm." is faulty, because it assumes that everyone has the same level of knowledge, and everyone knows everything about Islam.

You said : "Do we not bear the capacity to think (something clearly anti-Islamic)."

My response : Allah Has blessed mankind with aql (intelligence), Alhamdulilah. However, not everyone has the same level of knowledge. Some do know more than others, Alhamdulilah.

You said : "Or perhaps we are too lazy (a better argument)."

My response : So i guess whenever you have a question about Islam (no matter how complex and subtle the subject), instead of asking the Ahlul Ilm, you just refer directly to the Qur'an, and refer to the ahadith, and find what you need to know (Interesting, if you can do this, since that would mean you know the Qur'an by heart, and you know the meaning and interpretation of each and every verse of the Qur'an, and you know which ahadith are saheeh, which not....pretty interesting if you answered in the affirmative to the above question).

The Muslim masses, i.e. the common Muslims, do not know the interpretation and meaning of each and every verse of the Qur'an. Not all the Muslims know the Qur'an by heart. The common Muslims do not know the interpretation and meaning of each and every hadith, nor do we know which hadith is Saheeh, and which not.

You said : "In any case, Allah made all equal and gave them equal intellectual capacities, no matter what society ascertains each to be."

My response : Actually, not everyone has equal intellectual capabilities, just like not everyone has equal athletic capabilities. Some people are more intelligent than others ; some people know more than others ; some people are more athletic than others ; some people are more artistic than others, etc. This is known as 'diversity', Alhamdulilah.

You said : "In either case, we should not feel guilty about reading some innocent book as haram, when we are close to commiting shirk by giving the Ulama/Mullah/Ahlul Ilm a higher place then the rest of mankind. We are indeed close to it since we have not yet said that they are the sons of God...or God forbid...an equal to Him. Let us not follow the path Christianity took, which ended in the reformation."

My response : The issue is not that an innocent book is being labelled as haraam ; the issue is whether the book is innocent to begin with.

As for the charge of being close to shirk, the burden of proof lies on the one who makes the accusation.
I haven't seen you back up any of your statements with evidence from the Qur'an and the Sunnah, or even 'common sense' evidence. On the contrary, i've seen you reject 'common sense' evidence (eg : denial of a well-established fact such as the difference in the intellectual capacities of human beings).

Also, you said that we shouldn't follow the path of the Christians. I'd go a step further and say we shouldn't follow the path of the disbelievers. Interestingly, reading books such as Harry Potter is following the ways of the non-Muslims.

You said : "Indeed there are some who will be closer to God, but how do you know how close someone else is?...you can only know how close you yourself are...and how do you become closer when some preist/Mullah stands between you and the Almighty? Something to think about..."

My response : The charge being made is that Ulema stand between the common Muslims and Allah, and do not let us get closer to God, Wa Auzo'billah. Of'course, unsurprisingly, this is another statement without evidence. So, evidence please?

On the contrary, we see that the Ulema teach us, and encourage us, to give up on evil deeds, and adopt the complete obedience of Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him). And the one who does this, gains closeness to Allah Ta'ala, if Allah Wills.

You said : "As to Harry Potter...it can indeed enlighten us (not as much as the Quran, however). As I said before, it shows us the essence of good vs. evil and tells us that the righteous will always succeed...even if they are simply magicians in a fantasy world."

My response : In my humble opinion, this is a pretty lame excuse to defend the reading of such books. It's very much like someone saying "Yes i steal, but only from the rich, to give to the poor". Such statements are absurd.

"Good vs evil". Interesting, that both the good guys, and the bad guys, in this story, use magic, etc.

Indeed, Allah Knows Best.

Ma'asalama,
Asif.

Rasha
19-07-2003, 09:56
I think brother Hamad needs to learn the status of those with knowledge in Islam.

Indeed they are the inheritance of prophets, they are the beloved servants by Allah...

Allah, the Exalted, says:

"And say: `My Rubb! Increase me in knowledge.'' (20:114)

"Are those who know equal to those who know not?''' (39:9)

"Allah will exalt in degree those of you who believe, and those who have been granted knowledge.'' (58:11)

"It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allah.'' (35:28)

1376. Mu`awiyah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah said, "When Allah wishes good for someone, He bestows upon him the understanding of Deen.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

1380. `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Convey from me even an Ayah of the Qur'an; relate traditions from Banu Israel, and there is no restriction on that; but he who deliberately forges a lie against me let him have his abode in the Hell.''
[Al-Bukhari].

1381. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Allah makes the way to Jannah easy for him who treads the path in search of knowledge.''
[Muslim].

1383. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When a man dies, his deeds come to an end except for three things: Sadaqah Jariyah (ceaseless charity); a knowledge which is beneficial, or a virtuous decendant who prays for him (for the deceased).''
[Muslim].

1384. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "The world, with all that it contains, is accursed except for the remembrance of Allah that which pleases Allah; and the religious scholars and seekers of knowledge.''
[At-Tirmidhi].

1385. Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "He who goes forth in search of knowledge is considered as struggling in the Cause of Allah until he returns.''
[At-Tirmidhi].

1386. Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "A believer never satisfies doing good until he reaches Jannah.''
[At-Tirmidhi].

1387. Abu Umamah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "The superiority of the learned over the devout worshipper is like my superiority over the most inferior amongst you.'' He went on to say, "Allah, His angels, the dwellers of the heaven and the earth, and even the ant in its hole and the fish (in water) supplicate in favour of those who teach people knowledge.''
[At-Tirmidhi].

1388. Abud-Darda (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "He who follows a path in quest of knowledge, Allah will make the path of Jannah easy to him. The angels lower their wings over the seeker of knowledge, being pleased with what he does. The inhabitants of the heavens and the earth and even the fish in the depth of the oceans seek forgiveness for him. The superiority of the learned man over the devout worshipper is like that of the full moon to the rest of the stars (i.e., in brightness). The learned are the heirs of the Prophets who bequeath neither dinar nor dirham but only that of knowledge; and he who acquires it, has in fact acquired an abundant portion.''
[Abu Dawud and At-Tirmidhi].

Commentary: Like the preceding Ahadith, this Hadith also mentions the eminence of learning religious knowledge, and respecting and honouring `Ulama'.

1391. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah(PBUH) said, "He who does not acquire knowledge with the sole intention of seeking the Pleasure of Allah but for worldly gain, will not smell the fragrance of Jannah on the Day of Resurrection.''
[Abu Dawud].

1392. `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying: "Verily, Allah does not take away knowledge by snatching it from the people, but He takes it away by taking away (the lives of) the religious scholars till none of the scholars stays alive. Then the people will take ignorant ones as their leaders, who, when asked to deliver religious verdicts, will issue them without knowledge, the result being that they will go astray and will lead others astray.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

This is the status of knowledge...and indeed it is totaly arrogance and ignorance to think that "WE" can actually say fatwas or make up our minds for we know little arabic, little Quraan, little Hadith, little Fiqh... then HOW do u think we are even close to an alim who has been devouted to deen for years and years?!?!?!

No Alim is always right...this is why we do research ourselves we study, and we ask them.... some alims we take their word and some we don't.... we use our intellect to decide.... but the prophet said that the one who does ejtihad (make an effort in making fatwas and guiding others) gets 2 rewards if he is correct and only one reward if he is mistaken... but he still gets a reward!!!!!!!!!!!!

so let us all give them their due respect whether we agree with them or not

Asif
19-07-2003, 14:34
As-Salamu-Alaikum Sis Rasha !

Jazaakum Allah Khair, sis, for this wonderful post, with so much evidence from the Qur'an and the Sunnah, establishing the superiority of the one who knows, over the one who does not know.

May Allah guide all of us, Ameen.

Ma'asalama,
Asif.

NonMuslimGirl
19-01-2006, 16:10
I love the Harry Potter books but I am a Catholic and my religion doesn't prevent me for reading them. Personally, I only see positive things about them.

Anyway, I think that people must do what their conscience dicate them. I also believe that parents must watch what their kids are reading. It's their responsability to allow them (or not) to read these books or any others. So if you believe that they are un-islamic, them you shouldn't read them.