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lubna
28-08-2005, 01:48
To Hell With Muslim Terrorism



By abid Ullah jan
Published: August 24, 2005


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Pope Benedict is the latest figure who joined the chorus of other self-appointed advisors to Muslims. Some Western analyst call his recent address to Muslims blunt while others consider it as “quite understated.”[1]

In fact, Pope Benedict's August 21, 2005 address to Muslim leaders in Germany is no less than the bull of Pius II, in which he announced a new Crusade shortly after ascending the throne of St. Peter, in 1458. There are very strong reasons for that.

First, the Pope serves, at least in Catholic theory, as the final living arbiter of Christian doctrine. Secondly, His words are coming at a time when all Muslims — from the unacceptable Hizb ut Tahrir to the acceptable Muslim dictators and “moderates,” and “fundamentalist” sheikhs and mufties — have been relentlessly condemning terrorist acts for the past four years. The only thing they didn’t do is rubbing their noses in the ground, literally and publicly.

Thirdly, lecturing Muslims on the need to put their house in order and castigating them to denounce terrorists has become a vogue. After Blair’s firebrand statements and countless media pundits’ threatening all Muslims, the proverbial straw on the camel’s back are the front page headlines that read: “It’s your job to stamp out terrorism, Pope tells top Muslims. Steer Young Muslims away from ‘barbarism, cruel fanaticism,’ he instructs leaders.”[2]

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http://icssa.org/to_hell_with_terrorism.html

Voice
28-08-2005, 06:10
Why doesnt Pope Benedict try to be honest once in his life and advice Christians and Jews to stop their endless terrorism against Muslims around the world?

If he is an ambassador of peace as he depict himself, then why not to state the crimes that are been committed against Muslims everyday by Christians and Jews and compare them to what was committed against Christians and Jews and see which number is higher?

Why don’t he use the term “Christians and Jews Terrorism” when he says no to war and why he associates any crime committed against Christians and Jews with Islam?

Doesn’t he know that the root of the problem is Christians and Jews who have united to massacre Muslims everywhere? Is he that much naive not to know that or that because of his fanaticism towards Christians he declined to admit that?

Anyhow Pope Benedict is well known to be racist and anti-Muslims and the first thing he did after sitting on his throne is to announce that Turkey should not be part of EU because according to him it doesn’t belong to Europe and has different culture and belief!

Netcurtains3
28-08-2005, 11:03
UK protestants hate the EU as its dominated by Catholics and a united Europe gave the world such people as Nero, Hitler, Napoleon and Stalin.

To be pro-European, to some people, is a akin to making yourself a satanist. I am in two minds about this.

I am strongly anti-Europe (passionately so) but I would like a Catholic Europe to retake Constantinople via the ballot box. That would be quite something to witness! Is that Satan temping me to be pro-Europe? I'm not sure. I do think gobalisation is bad, as do most muslims and as such Islam, I guess, is passionately anti-Europe too. Do you really want Turkey to become another French satelite state?

John

johara
28-08-2005, 14:12
Voice, be careful friend you are not going the right way on this.The Pope denounces any terrorism.And dont play the card the the Roman Catholics are aganst Muslims this is not true.If you do not like what he says do not listen.Listen to your head of your Church.We all have different opinions that is why this world is imperfect.God made us of us with free will.

Voice
28-08-2005, 15:57
Voice, be careful friend you are not going the right way on this.The Pope denounces any terrorism.And dont play the card the the Roman Catholics are aganst Muslims this is not true.If you do not like what he says do not listen.Listen to your head of your Church.We all have different opinions that is why this world is imperfect.God made us of us with free will.

As-Salam Alaikum:

Cool down friend, I have no personal problem with the Pope but I just stated facts and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

The current Pope or the one before him have denounced terrorism, that’s true but none of them has ever used the term Christian Terrorism or Judaism Terrorism but they just call it plan “terrorism” but when it comes to Islam and they talk about terrorism committed by Muslims they always add the word Islam or Muslims before or after it.

The crimes committed by Hitler who was a Christian have never described by the Church as Christian terrorism nor the crimes committed by US against Afghanistan or Iraq have ever described so.

Crimes committed by Israelis are considered “Israelis Crimes” according to the Church and not Judaism Terrorism or crimes.

I will be glad to change my opinion if you can state here few incidents where the Pope described crimes committed by Christian and Jews as Christian Terrorism or Judaism Terrorism.

It is a great insult to Islam and Muslims that the Pope or anyone else associate the word terrorism with Islam otherwise what is the meaning of saying “It’s your job to stamp out terrorism, Pope tells top Muslims?”

Why doesn’t he say to Christians the same thing using the exact phrase?

Have a nice day

johara
28-08-2005, 18:43
The Popes have allways denouced terrorism,and calls on God Allmighty to revert the hearts of those accused of it.See we call for forgivness.There is no difference between you and I, other than our religion that we follow,and i must, as a Catholic repect yours.The Pope took heat for denouncing attacks in Iraq,Turkey,and other countries without mentioning Israel.....So really no matter what the Pontif does he will be critisized.I know that Hitler was a Roman Catholic,however left the religion as a young boy.And then, Pope John Paul,may he rest in peace,went to apoligize to the Jews for our lack of interference back then,during the holicost.So you see my point..but our faith is closest to Islam than any other religion.When you say Christian be careful,there are so many different ones.I however know mine as Roman Catholic,and know my faith.............regards and do not worry i am nice person..........johara

Voice
01-09-2005, 04:39
As-Salam Alaikum

Had your Pope has respect for Muslims and Islam then he would not meet such person, read it yourself

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050830/1/3um14.html

Netcurtains3
01-09-2005, 22:32
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B22D0ADF-D0EB-4DC0-9C6E-7671F19CD589.htm

I wish this guy was alive and I was able to debate with him. He obviously suffered from a lack of love in his life.

This song was written by Presley (Reg Presley):

Love Is All Around:

"
Love is all around
I feel it in my fingers
I feel it in my toes
The love that's all around me
And so the feeling grows
It's written on the wind
It's everywhere I go
So if you really love me
Come on and let it show
You know I love you, I always will
".

John

Voice
02-09-2005, 15:15
Netcurtains3 I see your post irrelevant to the thread so was it tit for tat or ego-driven one? Anyhow let me add few words about love.

When US was attacked in 11/9 millions of voices from US asked for revenge, magazines, newspapers and other media outlets filled the globe with such articles and calls. And when Afghanistan was attacked and its people were massacred by the various deadly weapons which used against them, few voices from US spoke and denounced the mass murdering of Muslims so were those calls for revenge and the feelings of satisfaction after slaying tenth of thousands of Afghani signs of love?
UK was there also and few more countries so what do you call that? Western-style love?

Netcurtains3
02-09-2005, 18:06
Hi voice,

You said:
“When US was attacked in 11/9 millions of voices from US asked for revenge, magazines, newspapers and other media outlets filled the globe with such articles and calls. And when Afghanistan was attacked and its people were massacred by the various deadly weapons which used against them, few voices from US spoke and denounced the mass murdering of Muslims so were those calls for revenge and the feelings of satisfaction after slaying tenth of thousands of Afghani signs of love?
UK was there also and few more countries so what do you call that? Western-style love?”

voice there is a long answer and a mathematical answer. The result most people want to the mathematics is the maximum amount of people being alive, happy, and free to follow their individual dreams of self fulfilment. From want I understand the Arab terrorists wanted an end to despotic rule in Saudi Arabia.
So, yes I can see that the USA now also wants this aim (at least the people do) so perhaps 9/11 was a wake-up call for democrats. Arab countries do need to be Free too.