Tayeb
06-10-2005, 13:41
Assalamu-alaikum ya Muslimeen and greetings to all others:
Turkey's bid to EC, is no more than dream. Unfortunately turkish leaders don't even realise what they have got into by accepting the latest terms and conditions imposed by actual 25 members of European Union. But this lack of foresight isn't only to be blamed onto turks. Muslims in general don't even know recent history. I notice this from the ulama that comes out of Darul-Uloom Palmela, the Islamic school for ulama in Portugal. How can Muslims know their place in the world if they don't anything at all about themselves?
A must read article, written by a non-Muslim, but a lesson to Muslims:
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Turkey's EU Dream Would Remain a Chimera
By K Gajendra Singh
source: Al-Jazeerah (www.aljazeerah.info), October 6, 2005
Only at the end of a marathon two-day negotiations on 3 October in Luxembourg, where Austria dug in its heels to downgrade Turkey ‘s full membership of the Europe Union (EU) and thus renege on the commitment made at the December 2004 Summit, was persuaded to give in , that Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul left Ankara to officially begin formal entry talks. In this act of duplicity smacking of religious bias Austria had the tacit support from other members like France, Holland and Germany.
The latest drama only entitles Ankara an indefinite stay, say 10 or 15 years or more , at the European gates after an arduous long journey of 40 years, with incremental conditions being added on and yet with no promise of final admittance . Turkey must now begin discussions on 35 "chapters", covering everything from free movement of goods to judicial reform , with each chapter only to be closed with the approval of all 25 members, and others, if admitted before Turkey.
Turkey, which became in 1963 an Associate member of the Community as the Union was then known , missed its best chance of joining the EU in 1978 when it was invited to join along with Greece . While Athens joined , Ankara declined unsure if it could withstand the economic changes required. It formally applied for full membership in April 1987 and was officially recognized as a candidate only in December 1999, and last December the EU agreed on a date for membership negotiations to begin.
In spite of all the pious talk of reconciliation between Christian and Islamic civilizations that the talks would usher, any chance of even a secular Muslim nation joining the Christian Club, was irrevocably buried along with the debris of New York Trade Towers on 9 September 2001. Nor would Ankara be an example, as claimed by the West, as an ideal democratic Muslim nation for others in the region.
Turkey under Kemal Ataturk fought a bloody war of independence and expel Greek , British , French , Italian and other foreign troops from its soil , while Arabs , who were encouraged to revolt against the Caliph in Istanbul by the likes of Lawrence of Arabia in the First World War , were soon colonized by perfidious Great British and France. Since then the Arabs have suffered one tragedy after another.Despite a secular republican Constitution since 1923, Turkey opted for multi-party system only in 1946. Its experiment in democracy goes wobbly from time to time and ironically brought back to the rails by its military.
The theatre at Luxembourg should be an example to those Indians , who support New Delhi’s vote against Iran’s nuclear power program which is in accordance with its obligations even under the inequitable Non-Proliferation Treaty ,in the hope of relaxation for India of Washington’s policy on non-proliferation, with USA’s known record of breaking treaties and written promises at will. Like EU, USA is even more likely to change goal posts as was the case regarding supply of Uranium fuel for India’s nuclear power station at Tarapore.
EU is basically a union of Christian states, which its many leaders so regularly proclaim, including former French President Giscard de’Estaing, the architect of the now rejected European constitution . He said before the 2002 summit that Turkish membership would signal "the end of the EU". Turkey was "not a European country". It had "a different culture, a different approach, and a different way of life". In 2004 he told le Monde that the wording of the draft charter effectively diminished Turkey's chances of joining the EU. The French and Dutch voted out the Constitution with Ankara’s entry becoming the focal point.
France and Holland would hold referendums on Turkish entry when it suits them. French President Jacque Chirac has said the Turkey would need a cultural revolution to enable it to enter Europe. With Germany's Angela Merkel of Christian Democrats, wannabe Chancellor and France's Nicolas Sarkozy waiting in the wings it will remain a difficult road for Ankara to traverse. Now more than 50% of the European population is firmly opposed to Turkish membership.
Christian Europeans forget the violence they inflicted on Asians and Africans but cite Ottoman victories in Europe to arouse feelings against today’s Turkey. They talk of the siege of Vienna, 321 years ago, when the Polish king, John III, after a plea from the Vatican, marshalled a huge Roman Catholic army to save Christendom, Europe and Austria, by routing the Turks and halting the Turkish advance into the European heartland. This is the first school lesson children in Austria imbibe.
In Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, killing of Muslims was regarded as a revenge against Ottoman violence. In Catholic Slovenia, the poster boy of post-Yugoslav success, integrated into the EU and Nato as a stable and prosperous democracy, Ljubljana is the sole EU capital city without a mosque. For decades, Slovene Catholics have thwarted attempts by the country's 50,000-strong Muslim community to build a mosque, even after the constitutional court last year finally threw out demands for a referendum to ban it. Recently USA suddenly discovered that Saudi Arabia has no religious freedom. Double standards of Christian nations who preach to others.
With no budget either or a common foreign policy, EU remains an amorphous and confused body , without any clear direction. Petty countries resist dilution of their sovereignty while they claim to speak on behalf of the whole Union . Said a European commentator ,"What has been happening in Luxembourg is dismaying. But it's part of the bigger problem about where Europe is going. The votes on the constitution gave the impression of a shambles, the budget was another big blow. Both could have been avoided. “
Apart from genuine fears of Muslim terrorists , which could enter Europe , with free movement of 70 million Turks ( which will be controlled even after entry ) , the historical enmity and wars between Ottomans and Christian Europe got revived again .In any case many European Christian democratic political parties would continue to exploit the fear of the Turk . As for the European’s claim that geographically Turkey falls outside Europe, Christian Greek Cyprus, now a EU member is tucked 60 kms south of Turkish coast in eastern Mediterranean, with Syria only 100 kms in the east .
A cascade of slim minarets piercing the Istanbul skyline bring to the Western mind memories of 1453 when the Byzantine capital Constantinople became the Ottoman Istanbul with the 6th century magnificent St. Sophia Church converted into a mosque by addition of minarets. But Istanbul and Turkey have monuments and ruins from its millennium and half long Roman and Byzantine past too. It is home to 40 civilisations .Turkey has more Greek monuments than Greece and more Roman sites than Italy .
>>>> second part in follow up
Turkey's bid to EC, is no more than dream. Unfortunately turkish leaders don't even realise what they have got into by accepting the latest terms and conditions imposed by actual 25 members of European Union. But this lack of foresight isn't only to be blamed onto turks. Muslims in general don't even know recent history. I notice this from the ulama that comes out of Darul-Uloom Palmela, the Islamic school for ulama in Portugal. How can Muslims know their place in the world if they don't anything at all about themselves?
A must read article, written by a non-Muslim, but a lesson to Muslims:
-------------
Turkey's EU Dream Would Remain a Chimera
By K Gajendra Singh
source: Al-Jazeerah (www.aljazeerah.info), October 6, 2005
Only at the end of a marathon two-day negotiations on 3 October in Luxembourg, where Austria dug in its heels to downgrade Turkey ‘s full membership of the Europe Union (EU) and thus renege on the commitment made at the December 2004 Summit, was persuaded to give in , that Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul left Ankara to officially begin formal entry talks. In this act of duplicity smacking of religious bias Austria had the tacit support from other members like France, Holland and Germany.
The latest drama only entitles Ankara an indefinite stay, say 10 or 15 years or more , at the European gates after an arduous long journey of 40 years, with incremental conditions being added on and yet with no promise of final admittance . Turkey must now begin discussions on 35 "chapters", covering everything from free movement of goods to judicial reform , with each chapter only to be closed with the approval of all 25 members, and others, if admitted before Turkey.
Turkey, which became in 1963 an Associate member of the Community as the Union was then known , missed its best chance of joining the EU in 1978 when it was invited to join along with Greece . While Athens joined , Ankara declined unsure if it could withstand the economic changes required. It formally applied for full membership in April 1987 and was officially recognized as a candidate only in December 1999, and last December the EU agreed on a date for membership negotiations to begin.
In spite of all the pious talk of reconciliation between Christian and Islamic civilizations that the talks would usher, any chance of even a secular Muslim nation joining the Christian Club, was irrevocably buried along with the debris of New York Trade Towers on 9 September 2001. Nor would Ankara be an example, as claimed by the West, as an ideal democratic Muslim nation for others in the region.
Turkey under Kemal Ataturk fought a bloody war of independence and expel Greek , British , French , Italian and other foreign troops from its soil , while Arabs , who were encouraged to revolt against the Caliph in Istanbul by the likes of Lawrence of Arabia in the First World War , were soon colonized by perfidious Great British and France. Since then the Arabs have suffered one tragedy after another.Despite a secular republican Constitution since 1923, Turkey opted for multi-party system only in 1946. Its experiment in democracy goes wobbly from time to time and ironically brought back to the rails by its military.
The theatre at Luxembourg should be an example to those Indians , who support New Delhi’s vote against Iran’s nuclear power program which is in accordance with its obligations even under the inequitable Non-Proliferation Treaty ,in the hope of relaxation for India of Washington’s policy on non-proliferation, with USA’s known record of breaking treaties and written promises at will. Like EU, USA is even more likely to change goal posts as was the case regarding supply of Uranium fuel for India’s nuclear power station at Tarapore.
EU is basically a union of Christian states, which its many leaders so regularly proclaim, including former French President Giscard de’Estaing, the architect of the now rejected European constitution . He said before the 2002 summit that Turkish membership would signal "the end of the EU". Turkey was "not a European country". It had "a different culture, a different approach, and a different way of life". In 2004 he told le Monde that the wording of the draft charter effectively diminished Turkey's chances of joining the EU. The French and Dutch voted out the Constitution with Ankara’s entry becoming the focal point.
France and Holland would hold referendums on Turkish entry when it suits them. French President Jacque Chirac has said the Turkey would need a cultural revolution to enable it to enter Europe. With Germany's Angela Merkel of Christian Democrats, wannabe Chancellor and France's Nicolas Sarkozy waiting in the wings it will remain a difficult road for Ankara to traverse. Now more than 50% of the European population is firmly opposed to Turkish membership.
Christian Europeans forget the violence they inflicted on Asians and Africans but cite Ottoman victories in Europe to arouse feelings against today’s Turkey. They talk of the siege of Vienna, 321 years ago, when the Polish king, John III, after a plea from the Vatican, marshalled a huge Roman Catholic army to save Christendom, Europe and Austria, by routing the Turks and halting the Turkish advance into the European heartland. This is the first school lesson children in Austria imbibe.
In Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, killing of Muslims was regarded as a revenge against Ottoman violence. In Catholic Slovenia, the poster boy of post-Yugoslav success, integrated into the EU and Nato as a stable and prosperous democracy, Ljubljana is the sole EU capital city without a mosque. For decades, Slovene Catholics have thwarted attempts by the country's 50,000-strong Muslim community to build a mosque, even after the constitutional court last year finally threw out demands for a referendum to ban it. Recently USA suddenly discovered that Saudi Arabia has no religious freedom. Double standards of Christian nations who preach to others.
With no budget either or a common foreign policy, EU remains an amorphous and confused body , without any clear direction. Petty countries resist dilution of their sovereignty while they claim to speak on behalf of the whole Union . Said a European commentator ,"What has been happening in Luxembourg is dismaying. But it's part of the bigger problem about where Europe is going. The votes on the constitution gave the impression of a shambles, the budget was another big blow. Both could have been avoided. “
Apart from genuine fears of Muslim terrorists , which could enter Europe , with free movement of 70 million Turks ( which will be controlled even after entry ) , the historical enmity and wars between Ottomans and Christian Europe got revived again .In any case many European Christian democratic political parties would continue to exploit the fear of the Turk . As for the European’s claim that geographically Turkey falls outside Europe, Christian Greek Cyprus, now a EU member is tucked 60 kms south of Turkish coast in eastern Mediterranean, with Syria only 100 kms in the east .
A cascade of slim minarets piercing the Istanbul skyline bring to the Western mind memories of 1453 when the Byzantine capital Constantinople became the Ottoman Istanbul with the 6th century magnificent St. Sophia Church converted into a mosque by addition of minarets. But Istanbul and Turkey have monuments and ruins from its millennium and half long Roman and Byzantine past too. It is home to 40 civilisations .Turkey has more Greek monuments than Greece and more Roman sites than Italy .
>>>> second part in follow up